How long should it take to learn these 12 virtues?

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How long should it take to learn these 12 virtues?

Post by Miss Tranton » Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:41 am

It seems a little overwhelming to me for a beginner. I instead it's the foundation, but do you have any tips on how to get these down? It feels like memorization, rote, which I was never a fan of in school.

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Re: How long should it take to learn these 12 virtues?

Post by Daniel » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:50 pm

Well, the good news is there's not really a time limit. Don't sweat it. If you look at Loricism as being simply a system of delivering information, modeled in part after martial arts training, it'll be easier to understand why some things are done the way they are (learning the basics is the first step toward leveling up). Knowing these 12 Virtues is what most of Level I is comprised of anyhow.

If you're really interested in getting them committed to memory, consider some other things that are along these same lines.
  • Tarot card meanings - to learn tarot, you must know what each of the 78 cards mean and how they relate to each other
The point is, each of the above examples are foundations to a must larger and more difficult skill set, something that takes years to truly master. It's easy to be overwhelmed at first, but don't let it get to you. It's just information. It's no different than trying to learn anatomy, or vocabulary words, etc. Just take your time, study the material, and over time you will begin to commit it all to memory.
The hallmark of a fool is a mind that never changes.

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Re: How long should it take to learn these 12 virtues?

Post by Rachel Umstrad » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:50 pm

Maybe this will help a little.

Adequacy : Self-confidence and belief that one possesses the potential to succeed.
Authority: Ownership over one's life, one's actions, and one's choices.
Temperance: Self-control; the quality of being able to balance between two extremes.
Responsibility: The state or fact of being accountable for one's duties and actions.
Respect: Due regard for a person, institution, concept, tradition, etc.
Discipline: Activity, exercise, or a regimen that develops or improves a skill or trait.
Courage: The quality of being able to face and/or overcome one's fears.
Vitality: The quality of physical, mental, and spiritual health.
Resolve: The quality of perseverance, being able to finish what one starts.
Reflection: The practice of examining one's thoughts, actions, and traits.
Prudence: The practice of care, caution, sound judgment, reason, and wisdom.
Justice: The practice of treating others with fairness and dignity.
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Re: How long should it take to learn these 12 virtues?

Post by Mik Darkashian » Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:45 am

^^^ Nice work. That's helpful.

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Re: How long should it take to learn these 12 virtues?

Post by Daniel » Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:31 pm

I agree, that breakdown is very helpful. Another thing to keep in mind, this isn't something you try to cram and learn to pass a test and then forget about it. This is stuff that's supposed to be reiterated over years and years, the same way a boxer of 20 years never stops practicing the jab. They learn more advanced stuff, but they still continue to practice the fundamentals.

Even once you feel like you've mastered these things, if you lose focus of them you will find that you start slipping away from your own progress. That's because (let's say you are 30 years old when you decide to improve yourself) you've had 30 years of autopilot. You are not going to change 30 years of behavior and reprogram autopilot after a few months. You have to be vigilant. Replacing a habit of 30 years may take years in and of itself. It may not.

It is clear that Marcus Aurelius was an avid practitioner of Stoicism. One might even call him close to a Sage, and yet even he had to write the Meditations as a way to constantly remind himself of the things he had learned and the behaviors he wanted to enforce. You don't just arrive. You have to maintain. It is like going to the gym. If you seek to lose 50 pounds and you work hard to do so, you do not simply stop doing the activity that got you there, else you'll gain it back. You must make it a lifestyle change. Maintain.
The hallmark of a fool is a mind that never changes.

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Re: How long should it take to learn these 12 virtues?

Post by Vandersexxx » Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:39 am

Rachel Umstrad wrote:
Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:50 pm
Adequacy : Self-confidence and belief that one possesses the potential to succeed.
Authority: Ownership over one's life, one's actions, and one's choices.
Temperance: Self-control; the quality of being able to balance between two extremes.
Responsibility: The state or fact of being accountable for one's duties and actions.
Respect: Due regard for a person, institution, concept, tradition, etc.
Discipline: Activity, exercise, or a regimen that develops or improves a skill or trait.
Courage: The quality of being able to face and/or overcome one's fears.
Vitality: The quality of physical, mental, and spiritual health.
Resolve: The quality of perseverance, being able to finish what one starts.
Reflection: The practice of examining one's thoughts, actions, and traits.
Prudence: The practice of care, caution, sound judgment, reason, and wisdom.
Justice: The practice of treating others with fairness and dignity.
Yes, this is fantastic. Is there any other handy thing that will help us with these?

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Re: How long should it take to learn these 12 virtues?

Post by Daniel » Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:44 am

Yeah, there's the abbreviated litany card. A lot of people find this incredibly beneficial.

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Re: How long should it take to learn these 12 virtues?

Post by Vandersexxx » Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:24 am

I like that you have it on a printable card that people can carry with them. Because some people will probably want to be able to copy and paste these I've gone and typed them out.

1. I have all the necessary traits to achieve the life I want.
2. I am the authority in my thoughts and decisions.
3. My fears are a product of my mind, it is there that I subdue them.
4. I take care of myself physically, mentally, and spiritually.
5. As long as I persevere, I will achieve the life I desire.
6. I respect myself and stand up for myself.
7. I am responsible for my thoughts, my actions, and my destiny.
8. I am diligent in doing what needs to be done, without complaint.
9. I focus on my own contributions to situations instead of seeking fault with others.
10. I am reasonable in thought and action.
11. I allow others authority over their lives. I treat them with fairness and dignity.

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